Alakazam Live Podcast

Episode 16

Alakazam Magic Season 1 Episode 16

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Join Peter Nardi, Wayne Goodman, and Harry as they dive into the realities of modern professional magic.

This episode takes a practical look at what performers actually carry to gigs, sparked by Harry's popular social media post showcasing his working set for weddings and events. The discussion explores how much material you really need, choosing the right effects for different audiences, managing performance flow, and adapting to unpredictable situations at live events.

Along the way, the team shares stories from recent weddings, corporate performances, and real-world gigs, discussing audience interactions, filming performances, handling challenging spectators, and the lessons that only come from years of experience in front of live audiences.

Packed with professional insights, performance tips, and plenty of behind-the-scenes stories, this is an episode that working magicians and enthusiasts alike won't want to miss.

Featuring: Peter Nardi, Wayne Goodman, and Harry

Topics Covered: Wedding magic, professional gig setups, audience management, performance theory, social media for magicians, real-world gig stories, and practical advice for working performers.

Find out more about the team behind this podcast at www.alakazam.co.uk

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to the Alakazam Live podcast with Peter Nardi. For the full video version of this episode, head over to YouTube and search Alakazam Magic Live. So grab a drink, sit back, and let's talk magic.

SPEAKER_08

Hi guys and welcome to the Alakazam live podcasty sort of thing.

SPEAKER_06

Well excited. Can I just say yeah, we've actually decorated the other end of the studio. First time sitting up this and looking at it, it looks brilliant, doesn't it? It does look really warm, a lot warmer. Yeah. Very exciting. But guys, hope you're all well. Absolute pleasure to feel you. Haven't been on a Tuesday one in ages, but I thought, you know what? I got in nice and early, obviously. Got all my work done. I thought I'll jump on it. Why not?

SPEAKER_08

Why not indeed? Why not? So we are joined as usual by uh the legend. Oh, that is Wayne Goody Goodman. I'll push that button then. Mr. Goodman!

SPEAKER_02

Um I'm having a problem with my studio, so today I'm in my front room. Ah, what's happening? I don't know. The camera, I've got a new camera which I've been using for the last couple of weeks, and it's really, really good. Um, but for some reason today it wouldn't connect to the um OMS, OM, what is it called? OBS. OBS. Um it wouldn't connect to the OBS. So um, but then I just resided it a few seconds ago and it was on there, but I thought I'm not gonna risk it. I'll start with it.

SPEAKER_06

Not even for a cookie biscuit, mate.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, I just thought I'd yes.

SPEAKER_08

Uh so you had a comment here, Harry. Uh so we're gonna be talking about um the wedding thing because you put up a video the other day and there was a few comments under it, so we're gonna talk about that.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I think it do you know what? Recently, I put up a picture ages ago of like my gig set and uh it got so much interaction. This was like a couple of months ago. Uh loads of you sort of I think it was nice to see. Obviously, we talk about loads of tricks and stuff like that, but it's also nice to get down to the nitty-gritty and be like, okay, what are you actually taking out? You know? Um, and obviously you can you can interchange loads of the items with other tricks and stuff like that, but I've sort of uploaded a photo of my set or the not my set but the tricks I took with me. It got great interaction, and I've done it again the other day because I added in a couple of new items, um, and again got tons and tons of interaction, a lot of questions, um, a lot of feedback, a lot of sort of people's own experiences in terms of the amount of material and stuff like that. So I thought it'd be nice to chat about that.

SPEAKER_08

Yes, indeed. We're gonna get on to that. Yes, and um we're gonna talk about because there was one one comment about oh, that looks like a lot for a gig. Now I know when I gig, I take a close-up case full of stuff, and I know when you gig, you've got at least one close-up case full of stuff.

SPEAKER_06

Well, I'm gonna send you, Dad. Have you got your Facebook open on here? Um the computer.

SPEAKER_08

Probably.

SPEAKER_06

I'm gonna send you a picture of it and we can put it up on the screen so people can see the tips.

SPEAKER_02

It's really it's really interesting because um, well, the people at home won't know this, but I know you do, Peter. But uh, I don't know if Harry knows this, but Jamie Dawes has been bullying me for the last few weeks, months, to re-release the restaurant book.

SPEAKER_06

Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02

But to update it. So I've gone back to to page one and I'm I've started read because I looked at it and the font was really huge and filling up space and and I like the pages to be smaller text, so I've made it smaller and I've I've started writing and filling in stuff that I should have filled in before, maybe, um, and updating it. And I I'm really enjoying it. I'm about 15 chapters in. But last night I was on this very subject, right? And I in the original book, which is still in the new version, in the original book, um I put a bit where it said, I always carry on me, blah blah blah blah blah, and then I have two, three or four interchangeable tricks that I can change throughout the performance. And it's quite interesting. I was reading it and I was thinking, well, that's I hadn't thought about that for a while, but it is I've got a staple of stuff that even if you catch me in Tesco's, I've always got a sponge ball in my pocket, I've got the little sugar rabbit, I've always got um the where's my wallet in the bag, you know, the the two half temp's that are stuck together so you can make the coin a bit bit by bit. Oh yeah, nice. I've always got that in my wallet. Um, I've always got a deck of cards, I've always got sponge balls, I've always got Sharpie on me. Um and and and they're the kind of staples I used to, I don't really do anymore, but I used to always have a thumb tip on me. Um but yeah, there's there's always you know stuff that yeah, it's always there. And when I'm working, and and I was looking at the list because the book was written, what, 12 years ago, and I was looking at it going, that's amazing, because that's still pretty much what I do now. You're a bit of a interchangeable the interchangeable tricks have changed. They're always in the case. So things like Trilogy Extreme is always in my case and comes out you know all the time, but now Knock'em Dead's in there, which wasn't in there before, and there are other tricks that that go in there as well. So, yeah, yeah, very interesting.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, it's it it's sort of um it was there there was a a comment from uh someone who goes out and performs, and his comment was I I what what was the comment? You you're taking too much or yeah, far too much or far far too much.

SPEAKER_06

And it was a comment that came up more than once, actually.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, and I I I just didn't get it. I tell you what, I've been to a gig. I was booked to do a gig once, and on the phone, the the person said to me, When they were booking me, it was uh summertime, they said, um come down, there's gonna be people in the house, and we have two marquees in the back garden. Right? So I thought, great, I was booked for two hours. So I've gone gone in there, and there's people in like the conservatory bit, there's about 20 people. So I thought, well, what I'll do is I'll entertain these people first, but I'll do my close-up set, but I'll do it like a parlor set, so I'll perform to all of them. And I did that, and you know, there's probably done about a 15-minute stand-up performance to all these 20 people, and I said, Oh, okay, I'm gonna go out now and entertain everyone else. And they went, Oh no, no, no, it's just us. So now I'm going, that's my set. I mean, thank God I had my case because in my case, and I've said this hundreds of times, I've got the tricks that I call no-brainers, where I might not perform it for four years, but I will always remember how to do it. Things like knock 'em dead, things like trilogy, things like cartoon. There are things that are just in there that you can go, right, I can do that, I can do this, I can do that, I can do this. And the the fact is, and I know the mentality of some people is right, when I go out for a gig, I've got my deca cards here, I've got my four coins here, I've got my pizza rope here, and I've got my pen here. That's great if you're only doing four minutes at a table. But what happens when, like New Year's Eve, I've done that gig for Harry, beautiful hotel and restaurant, a lot of tables were two people, it was couples. You had a few tables that were bigger. Now the the problem is if you're booked to do two hours and you've got how many tables are there? 15? Uh yeah, about that. 15, 20 tables? You're gonna do those tables more than once. So if I go out with just the deck, just a piece of rope, and just three coins, and I've done my set the first time round, what do I do the second time round? You know, that uh you take your case, you do your your A set, and you might approach a table, and you tell me this all the time, because I I say GR, what'd you what did you do? You say where it varies. Depends what what the mood is on the table. So true.

SPEAKER_02

So if you go if the tables are close together, if you go to table one, this is what a lot of people forget. If you go to table one, guaranteed there'll be people on table two watching you.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, when you go to table two, they want to see something different. And table one are now still watching you. Let's see what he does over there. And then when you get to table three, table you can do table one again at table three, but table two are still watching. So I I heard I heard there's a couple of things that I find really depressing about this. One, I heard about one magician, I won't name him, but I heard about one magician who was booked for a Christmas party for company, and he turned up with you know the um nut and bolt where it's electric, you just squeeze it and it uncrees it.

SPEAKER_09

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's all he did at every single table. One trick. And that's all he did tonight. Now, kudos to him, he can pull that off, that's great. But apparently that he didn't even have a deck of cards, that's all he did, was just this one thing for every person. The other thing I heard once, I heard somebody giving advice, and again, I won't name the person. I argued venomously with this person about this. He said, You're wasting all your time buying tricks, you're wasting all your time making up tricks, you're wasting your time reading books, learn five tricks, and they're the only five tricks you're ever going to perform in your career. And I said, That's the worst advice I've ever heard, right? That that is awful advice because you know, like you say, you turn up to an event, and you know, they they you suddenly realize that they're not card trick people, they want something a bit more. Or like when I was at their wedding the other week and they were rampaging round the room singing and dancing, and I'm trying to entertain around the tables, uh a nice quiet little card trick isn't gonna cut it. They want something bigger and bolder and something you know more flashy and showy. Um, because I've got to keep their attention. So, yeah, you you need to you need to have a repertoire, and that repertoire needs to be in your case, and when you get there, you go, Do you know what? Trilogy's not gonna work today, but you know what will? This one.

SPEAKER_08

I think that five trick thing, that that's very much from you know the days of the old working men's clubs when you had people like Wayne Dobson. Because I know Wayne always said that, you know, you learn five tricks, and and that's you could travel the world for the rest of your life. And and you probably could. You know, if you if you had a you know a cabaret set, I I don't know if it's such a big thing now, but you know, you get booked to do your act and your act is act as seen or act as read, you know. Um but when you're performing close-up, you never really know the environment you're going into, you know, because it could be a lot noisier. I mean, you said that the wedding you went to on Saturday with the s the saxophonist. Yeah, he was just so loud.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, and the thing is, I had Carl wallet on me, I was buzzing to perform it, but I just couldn't because I wouldn't be able to perform mind reading in an environment that loud. Um but then that's where something else comes in in its place, you know.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I had when I messaged your dad and showed him that video of those people dancing because the saxophonist and it he came into the room. I don't know if you all wanted this, he came into the room, they all came in and sat down at the end of the tables and that, and the bride and groom came in, and then he started playing, and uh he decided like nobody could hear me at all, nobody could talk because he was so loud, but for some reason he decided he needed to attach a little microphone to the front of his microphone to make himself louder, even louder, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my god, what you don't mean that I think can I just comment quickly that there was something your dad said about Wayne Dobson, and that's very true. Don't forget that, again, that's a stage act as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That comes from an era Wayne was at the tail end of that era of the working men's clubs, the comedians, where you look at people like Mick Miller, you look at people all that that ilk of comedians who only had 50 gags. Yeah, and then you'd see them on the Friday doing those gags there, then they'd be on TV on the Saturday doing the same gags, and then on another show on Monday doing the same gags, because that's all the gags, and they lived, and now people, you know, they're going out and everyone shouts the punchlines to them because everyone's been knowing the gags forever. Yeah, and I think you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

It was a it was a different time, and it's not you know, it's not a close-upper, you know. When we go out, you will that that gig idea New Year's Eve, there was most of the tables, like I said, were very small, intimate groups, and when you go to those tables, you perform your set, you move on, you let them have the time together. It's you know, there was people look like they're on their first date or they've just started, and you don't want to take up that sort of time, but it was a couple of tables, like big family tables that were absolutely loving it, kept calling me back, and everything else. You've got to have material to go back to, um, and you get when you are performing in this sort of situation, you do get um once you know your material, you do sort of hit a table, you you speak to them for a bit, you interact with them, and you go in your mind, you go, Oh, they're gonna love this. Yeah, they I know what they would love, they would love this. And just having the options there, so I totally agree. I uh and I said that on that comment. I said, like, you know, I totally agree. You only perform four or five effects on the table, but saying that I might still perform 15 effects during the night.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, yeah. Also, like how nice is it? I mean, this happened at a weekend, I was trying out a new Alakazan product, and it and it was fantastic, absolutely loved it, but it was so nice. I give them a chance to win money right at the start of the act, and then halfway through, they went, You can't give us another chance to win the money, can you? I went, Well, actually, let me try something else. You know what I mean? And you kind of you give them what they want, whether it they were reacting good to coin magic, whether they were reacting good to visual magic, it's nice to have something to offer them. Also, when there's kids running about, it's nice to again have something in your set or in your repertoire that would be perfect for the children because, as well, I'd done a uh wedding a few weeks ago and I performed to um the bride and groom's children, and they were loving it, and they're the ones who's gonna constantly run around and tell them and dad, oh my god, a magician was so good. All they're gonna hear is about the magician, he showed me these tricks, blah blah blah blah. They're perfect people to perform to, and it is nice to have a variety. I'm gonna put this quickly over the top, you should still be able to hear.

SPEAKER_08

So put it on overlay three. Uh you might have to take number one off.

SPEAKER_06

Unless I can't overlay anything.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, you can, but you have to do the overlay on the there you go.

SPEAKER_06

Look, so I mean, there, that was what I took, and don't get me wrong, clearly I didn't perform all of that to every person, right? Um, but that is the right I had. I had a couple of visual bits, um, I had a couple of coin items, a little bit of mind reading. Um, obviously, lovers walks there was just for the bride and groom, um, low-key, sponge balls. I mean, that for me, perfect. I had something for everyone. I could bring something in when it got a bit loud, I could take something else when it got quieter, you know.

SPEAKER_02

What's the red mug thing?

SPEAKER_06

Uh what was that trick? Um, what was it? I can't remember now. Armstrong one.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, I don't know. Can't remember. I was thinking of the Kennedy one.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, that's what I meant.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. Yeah. Can't remember what it was called.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Um, but you know, I look at that, and that's not half of what I take to a gig in my case.

SPEAKER_02

That would fill up one section of my close-up case.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, and and that's the thing. But I wouldn't do half of that, probably at a gig. No. I probably got four times that, and I wouldn't do half of it.

SPEAKER_02

The old saying, isn't it? You I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

SPEAKER_08

And you'd never know. I remember another one as well. I got booked to do a restaurant. It was Etienne Pradier that booked me to do this restaurant. Um, and I turned up there and uh the waiter said, Oh, you know, pop over there. There was a big long table. Um, I think there was like 15 people on this table, and it was a two-hour gig. And um I sort of performed round the table. I was there for about 15, 20 minutes performing, like moving round the table, and I said, Right, you know, I'm gonna go and wander, and um I might pop out later. And they said, Well no, hang on a minute, we've booked you. It was like that one table in the restaurant that had booked me for two hours. Etienne said it was like 150 people, so it weren't as if they were multiple tables, it was one table. So I ended up doing like a a bit of a stand-up show, and that was it. But those situations do occur, and if I didn't have my case there, I I would have been done, I think.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, um, can I just say I actually do agree with Jack here, and I went through this not too long ago, I must say. Jack said he got bored doing the same effects over and over. And you know what? I did have this same thing. I remember I come, it wasn't that long ago. I said to you about the gig, oh, don't know how I feel about gigs, blah blah blah. And ultimately, I just needed just to mix it up a little bit, and so I added in the castle wallet, I re-added back in Coins Across, um, I re-added back in MD Mini. Um, I've just stand up Monty. I basically just jiggled it all up, and then I just enjoyed it again because it was magic. I used to enjoy performing, and I now know the power of the new items like the castle wallet that I've re-added back in. Um and I just I did just need to mix it up.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I sometimes sometimes you do. It gives you a buzz to add new stuff. Um, it keeps it fresh for you as well. That's why I I used to um I used to love doing um my residency because every week or every month they would expect you to do new magic. They would expect it so I would learn a lot of tricks just to do at the restaurant, and by the time I had finished at the restaurant, that trick was pretty much honed. I would have done it, you know, 10-15 times, so I had a good idea of my patter and everything else. Um, and I I found it I found it very sort of uh exciting to do the the residency. The money weren't great, but we we ended up getting I got paid. Harry and Holly were were just little kids back then. I used to get paid, um, and we used to get a takeaway out of it, so it was happy days.

SPEAKER_06

And also, you will get gigs out of it. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? That's the thing, you are gonna get events out of it, and it's just good to have stage time, especially now. I mean, a residency, to be fair, even if your expenses were just covered, just to get footage is unbelievable for your socials. I mean, I get I don't I rarely I don't really push for gigs to be honest with you. Um, the one I normally perform at they sort of recommend, so that kind of comes in a lot. But whenever I upload a performance video, I'll always get a message about another event. And social media is just the way to go now, you know. Whether you post on it every day or not, I mean I managed to get some footage and I used the tip that Craig said. Um I got some footage, I don't know if you've seen it, of doing stand-up Monty and MD Mini and the new items as well. And uh Craig always said, whenever I'm at a wedding, I always say, Oh, um, sorry guys, do you mind if you record this next one? Because the bride and groom, whatever their name is, um, they don't get to see your reaction. So I normally film a few and then just send it over to them. And that way they're gonna react. You've got a great bit of content for your socials, which is priceless. You know, they see you in the moment, and people still don't know really. I think what close-up magic is when booking, you know. They and if they see it, they think, do you know what? That will fit right in our event, a corporate event, a wedding, a this, or that. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. On my contract and the way I describe it, I never call it close-up magic. I call it mix and mingle. Yeah, it really tells the story of what you're doing. I'm gonna be mixing and mingling with the guests, you know, and then then it's it since I've been doing that, which is a few years now, I've stopped getting the answer the questions of do you need a stage to set up? Do you need a thing? No, I'm they know I'm gonna be mixing mingling.

SPEAKER_08

Mixing and mingling.

SPEAKER_06

I've got a um just quickly, I've got the video of stand up on here as well, just in case we can play that. Because I know a lot of people, I uploaded it, I had a lot of messages. I know some people have struggled to learn stand up Monty, um, and it can be one of the ones where it's a bit tricky because there's some phases to remember. The actual method is simple, but it's Remembering the phases, yeah. Um, so years and years and years ago, um I filmed a handling for it, and it's just a slightly different setup. But I know a lot of people have got it and said, actually, I found it easier to learn that way. So if you wanted to learn stand-up Monty and you've already owned it or you want to get it, check out uh getting it from us, obviously, because then you get that video in your account for free, which is a different handle in, different setup. Uh, and I think you'll enjoy learning it that way as well.

SPEAKER_08

Shall we play it?

SPEAKER_06

Can have a little look, see?

SPEAKER_08

Right, let's have a look at this.

SPEAKER_05

You didn't see it.

SPEAKER_09

There you go.

SPEAKER_02

I love the hair quipping. That was great.

SPEAKER_06

I can't believe it. I put I tell you what, I put a hairspray in it and everything, and then that just one group just had my hair. I thought it was gonna fly off at one point.

SPEAKER_08

Um actually, actually, talking about hair quipping, uh obviously not mine, but in a moment I'm gonna play the video we just uploaded of me doing the Mirage coin set, and Amelio's filming me on the matter. It looks like two big spiders coming in with his hair's flopping across.

SPEAKER_02

When you showed it to me just before, because before we went live, Pete showed me that video, and uh I forgot to tell you, I was gonna go, oh, Emilio's hair keys going to be brushed backwards because yeah, it right at the end of the component. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_08

I'll play that in a minute.

SPEAKER_06

Um but I think yeah, I mean you could hear the volume of the music in the background there, and thing is it's fine, but that's when you do need tricks like that where it's just so visual, you don't need to listen as much, you haven't really got to hear what's going on, you can see it.

SPEAKER_02

Um you can follow the effect just by watching it, taking plainly, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Exactly. Um, but yeah, no, had a had a really good time, and I think it was just good to see mixing it up and um yeah, having a variety of tricks really did come in handy because I was like, Do you know what? Exactly what you both said. This group, I know they're gonna love this type of trick. If they react well to mind reading, do a bit more mind reading. If they react well to this, do a bit more of that. And if you've got someone who's really facial expressions, then do something a bit more visual, like coins across, where they feed it in their hand, then they're gonna tell the story rather than you, you know. You get someone who's so vocal, they're gonna make a coin appearing in the hand even better than it is, you know, because their reaction is gonna be killer.

SPEAKER_02

I've always broken down as well. You you you you need different things for different groups. If you've got a bunch of alphas at the bar, like I had at that wedding couple of weeks ago, but 20, 12 men, very big and aggressive and very shouty and sweary and very loud, then coins across are going to work for them, right? Because they're gonna be that they need something that they pick a card, they can grab a whole handful if they want to, whatever. Yeah, whereas when I go and see granny and grandad and the aunties and uncles who are all in their sixties upwards at the back of the room, I need something nice and quiet and calming for them because they're gonna so that's where you know something else, something completely different to what I've done to those.

SPEAKER_08

Something a bit more elegant, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

They're grandma's miracles and yeah, so again, when I go and see the kids, they want sponge balls and everything else, but they they want something completely so you need to have material for everybody. It's no good going in going, oh, I've got I've got you know one trick and it's gonna work for everybody because it isn't. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great champ.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Um also I just um great picture as well.

SPEAKER_02

Sorry.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, it's a cool picture, isn't it? Oh, Russ, what a legend. What a legend. Um I will say as well, we've got a really exciting thing that's gonna be on the site later on. Uh, we've been waiting for this for absolute yonks. Finally, it's back. It's not on the website just yet, but hopefully later on today it will be on there. Oh. But we can announce that later on.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Just saying.

SPEAKER_08

Well, you can show it and say it will be up at some point.

SPEAKER_06

We've got a trailer for it too. Shall we play a trailer? Let's play a trailer, we can talk about it.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, you can't tease like that and then not show.

SPEAKER_06

That's not how you can use it.

SPEAKER_08

It's a classic that's coming back. It's been out of stock for quite a few years.

SPEAKER_06

A proper classic.

SPEAKER_08

Alright, so let's take a look at this.

SPEAKER_07

Turn to the very front page of the book. There's going to be a list of countries. Hopefully, there's a country by them. There isn't, let's make up a country. Have you got a country in your mind? Yeah, we can close the book and pop the book. Um, have you got a point to the city?

SPEAKER_08

It's coming back.

SPEAKER_02

That's very exciting.

SPEAKER_08

It's possibly one of my favourite mind reading pieces of all time. I have used that one-on-one, I've used it as a group of five people, I've even used it stand up as like a tossed out deck sort of routine. It's so, so strong. For something so innocent looking, it is just so powerful. It's a workhorse of of an effect.

SPEAKER_02

Can I uh I um I have one in my my closer case at all times. Um and I actually, shameless plug time, um, I actually built uh my trick uh picture perfect. It's built to be done with the bitbook. You don't need the bitbook to do it, but the one with the photo album that opens up, yeah, um, that was done, that was built around the the bitbook so that I could do it. I mean, you get cards in it, but you can use it with the um the bitbook to to get what you need to do. Um yeah, very, very excited about that. I love I love it. It's one of those things. Well, I had a lady at a wedding recently say, Can you read my mind? Can you tell me my future? And I said, Well, I can't tell your future, but and I got the bit book out and I I did a the routine that you did there with the Paris.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. It's super strong. Super strong. Um, and it, you know, if you're doing it to a group of people for mix and mingle, there was a group of four or five people, get them to open a book, they're all thinking of something, they put the book in my pocket, I don't touch it again, and then one by one I just go through and read their minds, and it gets progressively harder and harder, apparently.

SPEAKER_06

What an easy, tiny thing to have on you that can just play so big, and yeah, that's brilliant.

SPEAKER_08

That's why I'm saying it it will play mix and mingle, play tables, play stage, play parlour, play in any situation if you want your reveal to be big, if you want to do a drawing dupe. It's just a a great it's a utility, really. Yeah, it's a utility that that's well.

SPEAKER_02

Imagine you go to a table with like six or eight people around it, you can get five people out of that table involved, and with a bit of thought you can incorporate the other three as well, but you can you can get many people in the table involved in and all you've got is is that tiny book in your pocket.

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Yeah.

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And they're not going to forget that. When you walk away from there, they'll be like, you know, that that's a strong set with just one one trick.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

It's very good. Very good. Um, Tom Rolfe said, by the way, I think he thinks you've labelled him as a granddad, 60 plus. Can't believe it.

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There's no way Tom's 60.

SPEAKER_06

No, I don't believe it anyway. He must be joking.

SPEAKER_08

He's in his 40s.

SPEAKER_06

He's got to be kidding, isn't he? Got to be kidding.

SPEAKER_02

I think Tom has got a ph a picture, a painted picture of himself in his loft that gets older and older and older. He could he doesn't seem to age, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_08

Um where are we going, don't we go? Oh, yes, there is. Um, if you've got unexpected delivery as well.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know about this because I've got unexpected delivery.

SPEAKER_08

There is actually an expansion to the app for the Bitbook. Nice. So it it's actually him at the door with your aeroplane ticket.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, that's sick. That's cool, isn't it?

SPEAKER_08

For for free and going to Paris.

SPEAKER_06

That is cool. That is cool. Has he still got his accent?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

What a ledge. Every time I hear the ring doorbell go off now, I just can just hear that next phase in my head. It's hilarious.

SPEAKER_08

So so good.

SPEAKER_06

Another one that came back in stock recently was Mirage Coin Set as well. Ooh. This is seriously, I would say, you know, everyone keeps saying, Alex, I'm growing, growing, growing, growing, growing. I would say this product was the bit that then started to push it even. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like it changed the trajectory because it was different, it's the best of its kind, in it.

SPEAKER_08

I just think it's such a good job. Do you know what? I remember that. It was it was the very early days when we were working with the legend Craig Petty. And I remember having a telephone call with Craig, and um he was saying, Oh, you know, I I think we had just released Gossip, which was our first release with Craig.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

And I remember Craig saying, Oh, I've got a lot more uh routines and effects if you're interested. I said, Yeah, yeah, yeah, really interested. He said, Well, what is it that Alakazam really wants? And I said, Well, I tell you one area we would love to get into, we've never really done it, is coins. And that's when he just turned around and said, Well, you know, the Mirage coin set needs to be out, and it needs to be out the way I've always wanted it to be out. And then and that was the start of the elite coin range.

SPEAKER_06

So big kudos to Craig. There's no doubt in my mind now, it's the same with wallets, especially now we've taken over 1914. Now coins. If someone imagine this are Olivander's, we are the go-to place for wallets, and probably the go-to place for coins now. Yeah, I'd say. Yeah, yeah. The strongest coin says, and the quality of all of them. I mean, they're all handmade by uh Roy and Sean Cooper's unbelievable engineers, coin engineers. The stuff is crazy, even when we're going through checking it, we can't even see what one the gimmick is most of the time. You know what I mean? We can't, it takes us two minutes just to find it. It's brilliant, and the routines taught it how Craig's brain works.

SPEAKER_08

We were saying it this morning because Harry said, Can you film a little video for the Mirage Coin Set? So I said, Yeah. And I got out the gimmick coin. It took me ages to find because they're all sort of gimmicked in a slightly different place. So my one, I know exactly where it's gimmicked, I know where to hold it and everything else. To try and find it on a new one, you're sitting there going, Oh god, is it here? Is it once you know, you know, but yeah. So shall we play that little video? Let's have a look. Go on then. I've got a look.

SPEAKER_04

Hello, mate. I've got 200 pounds spent on one of our really, really good coin trick.

SPEAKER_08

Got just the thing back in stock the Mirage Coin set. Boom! Now, this set is only £175 and a half dollars. Perfect. And you learn a ton of killer magic.

SPEAKER_04

That sounds like the one for me then.

SPEAKER_08

Let me show you one trick from it. It uses uh four coins and a wine glass. You can examine that and you will notice as well that the coins themselves are we've got three silver coins, one copper coin, and the wine glass. The idea is the coins are going to travel to the glass one by one.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_08

Coin number one, which will be one of the silver coins, just like this. Jump into the glass. You can examine that. Now I know what you're thinking. Most people, when they see this sort of magic, think why can't they see the actual magic moment? Pop that coin in the glass. Now you're gonna see how many coins in my hand?

SPEAKER_04

Three.

SPEAKER_08

Two silver, one copper. Yeah. Watch. Jump like that. The second one jumps across. Take a look, check it out.

SPEAKER_04

That is mental.

SPEAKER_08

It is really mental. So it's only two more coins to go. Yeah. Uh so we'll take the last silver coin just like this. Just like that, leaving three coins inside the glass. Now, this is where we take it up again. We've still got a copper coin to go, and we've got three silver coins, right? So the silver coins are gonna go under the wine glass, leaving the copper coin in my hand. Watch. Oh, just like that. One jumps out, one jumps in, that's the silver one, and over here, no way, sandwiched right between that is mad. And that is just one trick you can do with a mirage coin set, and we have it in both half dollars and dollars.

SPEAKER_04

What one's that? Is that half dollar?

SPEAKER_08

That's the half dollar.

SPEAKER_04

That's the one I'm gonna pick up.

SPEAKER_08

Perfect, that's £175, and there's your Mirage coin set.

SPEAKER_04

Perfect, thank you.

SPEAKER_08

Right, just just to confirm, at the beginning of that video, I do say £175 in half dollars. You don't have to pay for it in £170 worth of half dollars. Alright, you can you can pay in sterling or credit card. Um, but that set is for me is everything. It's the thing that changed um my love of coin magic, started my love of coin magic with that set. Um and it in particular it was the reverse international matrix. When I first saw Craig do that, you know you get that feeling where you watch it and you go, I'd love to do that, but yeah, I just don't think I know how to put into it and this, that, and the other. And when I learnt it, it was so easy. I remember speaking to Craig and going, Ah, you know, I'd love to do that effect. And he went, Yeah, you can do it. And I went, nah. He said, just wait till we go on to the explanations. And when I saw him explain it, so easy, but so strong, such a beautiful piece of magic.

SPEAKER_02

It's probably my favourite matrix, coin matrix routine. Yeah, yeah. It's so visual, so unbelievable, so magical. It is brilliant. And oh gone.

SPEAKER_06

No, I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_02

No, no, go.

SPEAKER_06

Thank you. Um, I was gonna say, genuinely, it really feels like you wouldn't be able to do it. It look it feels like a proper fism level finger flicking. I mean, it just looks out of out of reach, but then when you sit down and look at it, you're like, actually, I genuinely can do this, and I'm not even getting a headache learning it. You know what I mean? You you will it very quickly, you will get one coin to jump under the card, two coins jump over the card, and then from that point on, everything just sort of falls in place anyway. But there's so much great material on there, and we've had so much good feedback of people of all abilities doing it, you know, um, which is awesome, and it is some people's first coin set, and we know that uh obviously coin stuff is just more expensive anyway because they're handmade using real coins and stuff like that, but every single person says how much they're enjoying it and so glad they got it because of the routine and in there and that they can actually perform the stuff on there. Yeah, you know, it's not pipe dreams, you will genuinely perform at least free routines within half an hour. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, there's something else here as well. And when you think about the cost of the trick, what you're not taking into appreciation is this is your masterclass, your your next however many years of learning coin tricks in one package. When you get emails from people, when we had the chat, and I would talk to people, I would say to them, Look, this is your this is your permanent teacher here, because you're gonna start off with the basics, yeah, and then you're gonna suddenly realize that you've learned all the basic moves, you you can now confidently attempt them intermediate routines, and then before you know it, you want to the expert routines, and all of a sudden you've gone from being someone who does a card trick, uh coin trick, to becoming a coin magician, a coin master, yeah, all with one set of coins. And if you take your time to and learn them in the order, you will find yourself getting better and better and better and better and better. Yeah, and it's it's it's one of those things, and then you can move on to the nightshade and start again, and then you can move on to you can add the apparition in there as well, and before you know it, you're a bona fight of coin magician. Yeah, uh, you're the coin guy, um, and and it's all you know, yeah, it it's just it's just an amazing resource.

SPEAKER_08

Well, what what I did as well, especially with the uh Mirage Coin set, was I went through the video, I chose my favourite, I think it was FiveFX, and I tweaked the handling so it suited me. Um and I filmed it as a separate video. So if you buy the uh Mirage Coin Set, you also see a little video of me, and it's a short video because the Mirage Coin Set is a long video. There's a lot of routines on there, there's a lot of great things you can learn, but you could jump in and just watch my one. I teach the Reverse International Matrix, my coins to coffee cup, um, coins to pocket, I think. Um I teach a few different routines on there, but it's a nice short video that will get you up and running super quick with it. And I know it's a lot of money when you look at these coin sets, like you said, it it's it's a lot of money, but you're getting a lot of routines for it. Like the um the Nightshade coin set. I think there's four versions of Free Fly on there, and there's all sorts of different routines, coins across and coins three table and everything else. But bearing in mind, I purchased a free fly 24 years ago, 23 years ago. It cost me almost double the price of the Nightshade set, and that was one routine. One routine, and that was 20, 23, 24 years ago.

SPEAKER_06

It's crazy. It's crazy the amount you get in there, and genuinely, if you've never done a coin trick before, you will get one of those sets and be performing prov like professional level coin tricks without a doubt.

SPEAKER_02

Um, though, is it? It's an investment.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, 100%. It it's something that you're gonna do for the rest of your life. And and you could probably just have this coin set if you wanted, and never have another coin set for for the rest of your life. Um and you'll have enough material on here if you wanted to stick with just this to learn and enjoy and perform.

SPEAKER_06

It's brilliant. It's so good.

SPEAKER_08

And if you haven't seen it actually, it's if you go to the product on our website, we've got a fifteen, sixteen minute performance of Craig just using this set live at Houdini's Magic Bar. Nice. So he does a variety of effects to the same audience, so obviously the routines are all different, but just using these coins.

SPEAKER_02

I remember filming that. I remember holding that camera still for 15-20 minutes.

SPEAKER_06

I couldn't believe how much he how much he got in there, but as well, it was good to see the variety of tricks on there. You know, they it wasn't oh, this is one way the coins go through the table. There's another way the coins go through the table, and now another way, you know, it all felt different and it was engaging throughout. It was brilliant.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, really, really good. Um, UK Navy 9 said you need to supply the train tickets again. The train tickets are coming back.

SPEAKER_06

Um, we also have an RC, the trailer for the Curiously Congreve. Oh that was uh an academy we had with Chris Congreve that's just gone past on Thursday, was it? Or yeah, honestly, brilliant. Chris Congreve's academies are always great. I'd probably say this is the best one yet. In terms of just surefire, workable, proper material.

SPEAKER_08

Well, this in here, this is a full performance of the car to matchbox. This is brilliant.

SPEAKER_06

This is so good.

SPEAKER_08

Did you see this, Wayne?

SPEAKER_02

No, not yet. I've got it in my account, but I haven't um I haven't seen it. Nice.

SPEAKER_08

I'll tell you what, there was a lovely move. I think I explained it to you. The top changey move.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, brilliant. I'm using that all the time. It's so good. Um, but shall we take a look at this?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, this was brilliant.

SPEAKER_08

Okay, so let's take a look at this. Hi guys, and welcome to tonight's academy. Tonight I'm joined by a very good friend of mine, the amazing Chris Congreve.

SPEAKER_03

I'm just going to touch your closed pair. I'm going to show you some of those clothes over there. You can't give it a magic one. There you go. So magic one is one. Um you just tap the tap it with the magic one. Um so what's gonna happen is your card is gonna try and tap it. Um card?

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_03

Is that your card? Is that not your card is it? No, you don't know your card, okay. Oh, which one I've been happy? Um, just I imagine I'll tap the tap yet. Well card in the fancy. No, I'm quite. Not too much. No. Oh, four and half, so I'll put it on. Boom! Lovely.

SPEAKER_02

That's beautiful.

SPEAKER_08

It's a great little routine, isn't it? Just so commercial. So commercial. Um, so that is now available as an instant download, and it's full of commercial material like that.

SPEAKER_06

Tons of stuff on there, and that's just a regular matchbox. I in my head, the great thing is with it, there's no weird turning over things, there's no weird this, you know what I mean? It's not double-sided thing, it's just super simple, fully examinable matchbox. It's brilliant, it's very, very good. And like Dad said, that's just one of the ones taught on there. He had a coin one, um, he had a really nice or a few quick card openers. He had sort of uh card on the box mini routine. He had a really good one where a card keeps vanishing and reappearing, just tons of stuff on there, but all workable stuff, really good.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, really good. So that is uh curiously Congreve, it's available as an instant download. Oh, the other thing I just throw something in, Pete.

SPEAKER_02

Sorry. Yeah. Just for anybody, uh anybody who hasn't bought Academies or who's new to Alakazam, um, just because we do get this asked a lot, if you buy a digital product or something with a video, a streaming video, if it's an Alakazam product, it will go into your downloads folder. If it's an Academy, there is a separate folder called Academies, and it's very easy to miss it, but there's an and all the academy, so all the anything that's an academy will be in the academy's folder. Now, if you buy any content that says it's an instant download, but it's not Alakazam produced, so if it's an ebook or a video or anything like that, it will go in your partner downloads folder. So when you're looking for your things, if you can't buy it in downloads, check the academy, check the partner downloads. 99% of the time it will be in one of those other folders, depending on where it's come from and what exactly it is. Yeah, that is the end of this information message. Okay, cute.

SPEAKER_08

I I've got another bit of information as well. Um, recently we upgraded our Shopify system, upgraded the back end, doing some work on that. Now, Shopify, something's happened to Shopify, and it's putting some customers down as a company for some r weird reason. Um, so if you find that when you go to log into your Alexam account, it's saying you haven't got permission, please let us know. We know how to rectify it, but we don't know who it's affected unless you let us know. So please let us know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. And just let us know and we can rectify it um pretty much instantly, but we there's no way of us telling who's it's affected and who it hasn't. Hopefully, just a very few of you. But um, if you do find that, just send us in a quick email and we'll get it rectified for you. Um and we have actually got Shopify support looking into it at the moment, so hopefully they will find a way to rectify it as a blanket thing and get it all done.

SPEAKER_06

When's our next uh release, by the way? Because we sent some to America Store today. Two items. I think it's next week. But I don't know what day. What do you know? Because is it not the 20th? 20th something.

SPEAKER_08

Well, we have two new ones. We've got two this month. Two releases this month. One of them, the next one coming out, is a Parlour Stroke Stage Effect that we had at Blackpool.

SPEAKER_06

Bill Richards, no problem. If you message us, um then we should be able to have a look into that because that's probably where it's swapped, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I'll try and give Bill a call after this live.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, that's probably where it's swapped over, so it's going under a different account kind of thing.

SPEAKER_08

Um right, Walter's saying he's having a problem. Walter, can you recheck your account? I'm gonna quickly check now. Have a look. Have a look. Can you get Walter's account up for me? I'm gonna check it while we're live. It's on the podcast. This is customer service, right?

SPEAKER_06

There we go, there we go.

SPEAKER_08

So let's do this. Okay, Walter trying now. And have a look at the pill. Have a look at the pill as well.

SPEAKER_06

What a weird little upgrade.

SPEAKER_08

It's very strange. It's very strange.

SPEAKER_02

It's probably because they've made change one thing in our setting. I think they have, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

It used to be um basically B2B is business to business, and you used to have to switch it on, but now they've just made it as part of it. But for some reason it's randomly putting customers, certain customers, as B2B customers, which is is just yeah, I I haven't got a clue why. Um seemed alright, but yeah, Walter, try now because um I've just done what should sort it. Beautiful. Um so have a look. But I think that's bringing us to the end of this sort of live chatty podcast.

SPEAKER_02

Look at that, that was the quickest one yet.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. What what have you got planned for this week? Mr.

SPEAKER_02

So I'm off I'm off to Lincoln Castle tomorrow because I'm going to go and see OMD, the pop band.

SPEAKER_08

OMG.

SPEAKER_02

OMG, OMG, I'm gonna be up there. Um I'm going up with the Marvels have up there already. Um Tracy and I are going up and our friend Mick um going up. And um me, Martin, and Mick have all got matching OMD t-shirts that we've got for Christmas. Um so we're looking forward to that. Um and um what else is happening? Uh I've got gigs of the weekend. Nice. Yeah. So going going going back to repertoire gigs actually very quickly. Um when we were talking earlier on, and Harry, you said you'd do about Coins Across, I always do Coins Across. But it reminded me that I haven't performed for a while one of my favourite routines, which is Cards Across. Um I thought, do you know what? Maybe we could do a little video for Unlimited with that next one down, because that would be a nice little one to add to Unlimited. I love Cards Across. I've I I I I've got a couple of different ways of performing it. Um, but it's um yeah, it is one of my favourite favourite routines of all. It's um it's so powerful, and when they because they do all the counting, you do nothing. And it's just a really nice, strong, powerful routine that you can get at a table or with a few people, it's good for the kids, the kids love it as well, the grannies and grandads love it. It's a proper multi people trick. It's great.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, nice. No, it's really good. And if you are a member of Unlimited, um I did mention this before, the price is going up by a pound, it's going up to $5.99. Um, but we are just about to start, I think maybe next week or the week after, a mentalism course on envelopes with Alexander Marsh. Yeah. It's very, very good. Very good.

SPEAKER_02

Do we know when it's going up in price?

SPEAKER_08

Uh it's well, probably now-ish. So right now.

SPEAKER_06

Now let's look at Ned quick.

SPEAKER_08

Uh right.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, uh, but there's loads coming to uh Unlimited. Also, loads of you seem to enjoy Emilio's series, Making a Magician, so thank you so much.

SPEAKER_08

Uh no.

SPEAKER_06

Right, Ned should be okay now.

SPEAKER_08

Um, and also, yeah, Ned, you should be fine now. But also, if if it's still showing the error, refresh the page a couple of times because it's probably in your cache.

SPEAKER_06

I'll tell you what another one quite mine.

SPEAKER_08

Um what are you looking at? I remember Chris. Well, me and Jenny are off to London town today.

SPEAKER_02

Nice. What are you going to do up there?

SPEAKER_08

We are going to see Avenue Q for the uh No, I wouldn't want to go and see that. Yeah, it's really good. We saw it when it was first out many, many years ago.

SPEAKER_02

So Simon Simon Lipkin was in that in the first cast.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, so he would have been in it when we first saw it.

SPEAKER_02

Very, very quickly, last week as a present for uh uh my seem-to-be mother-in-law, um, who is watching this. Hi Sue. Hi, Sue. Um we went we went and saw Oliver and we got uh to meet the man afterwards as well.

SPEAKER_09

Nice.

SPEAKER_02

He's so lovely. He's proper, you know, yeah, he's amazing. And the show was amazing as well.

SPEAKER_08

I still haven't seen it. It's a great show.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, it's so good. It it's it's proper amazing. Oh, yes, let me know what Avenue Q's like. I'm excited about that.

SPEAKER_08

Well, it was it was great the first time we saw it. It's very inappropriate, but yeah, that's a bit of you then, isn't it? But it's very good. It's very good. Um, right, so that brings us to the end of this live uh podcast. I believe we are back next Tuesday.

SPEAKER_02

We've got nothing in between, have we? We've got nothing, nothing happening in between.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, yes, we have. Oh this Thursday evening at eight o'clock on our YouTube channel. Oh yeah, we have got the Alakazam Convention Vlogumentary. Yeah, boy. Okay, so this is something that Jamie filmed and put together, and it's a bit of a behind the scenes of the convention, um, gives you a bit of history about you know why it came about and where we want it to go and everything else. It's a really sort of fun little watch, but we're doing a live watch along at eight o'clock, so all you need to do is I mean, the video's up there on our YouTube now, it's set as a premiere, so you can go and press remind me. Um, but at eight o'clock on Thursday night, we're all gonna watch it together. Just go onto YouTube and watch it. But the chat box will be open, I'll be on the chat. I think Jamie's on the chat, Harry might be on the chat, so we'll be able to just chat away and answer any questions. You're not on the way. Oh, Harry's away, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Where are you going? I'm going to play golf. Going to Turkey to play a bit of golf. It's alright, for sure. Yeah, you were. Yeah, you were. Um but yeah, I'll be taking some tricks out there, of course.

SPEAKER_08

Take your metas and get some footage.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I'm trying to think what I'll do.

SPEAKER_08

Footage.

SPEAKER_06

Trying to think what I'll perform.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, I and D like this.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, we're at um talking about music, we're at Leo 2 on Saturday night for um uh Ministry of Sound, but you know when the Philharmonic Oh nice! Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So Tracy, Tracy's in London, she's going to see Harry Styles at Wembley. Nice. And then her and Sue are going to go and see McFly in the in the forest on next Wednesday. Um where Charlie's there as well, they're going to be IP. And then the week after, don't ask me why, Tracy's going to see take that three times in a row.

SPEAKER_08

Three times? Honestly.

SPEAKER_02

Proper fan. Tell us she's got the tickets for that.

SPEAKER_06

Um just quickly, John. I've just changed it, so you if you refresh, you should be alright now, John. Alright. Oh, Will Thompson first, World Cup game Thursday at eight.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, who's playing Will? It's not England, is it?

SPEAKER_06

Well, if it is, a lot of magicians are not footy fans, so let's see. Yeah, but yeah, that I'm just saying. That's what I just said. Yeah, John, yours should be done there if you just check it. Right, let's have a look. Thursday. World Cup. Oh no, not England. Mexico, South Africa, Bolivia. Oh, yeah, Mexico, South Africa, the rest of the friendlies. When's England's first one then?

SPEAKER_08

There you go. Right, so we're even giving you your your football scores or football fixtures for the World Cup.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Right, okay.

SPEAKER_08

Right, that's it. We've got to go. Um, but thank you all very much for joining us for this week's uh live podcast. We will see you hopefully Thursday night on YouTube for the live premiere of the Alex Sam Convention Vlogumentary.

SPEAKER_06

Danny Ragg's not invited. Oh. No, I'm telling you now. That's one too many times he's made a joke about the Mighty Arsenal now. He's not invited.

SPEAKER_08

Right, so we will see you then. Um, Wayne, have a fantastic time at OMD.

SPEAKER_02

Enjoy. Can't wait. I'll get some footage as well.

SPEAKER_08

Right, Wayne. See you soon. Everyone have a great week. We'll see you soon.

SPEAKER_01

The news is out. The 1914 has found a new home. We are proud to announce that Alakazam Magic are now the proud custodians of the 1914. What does this mean for you? Simply put, everything you love stays exactly where it belongs. The aesthetic, the quality, the philosophy. The website remains unchanged. Your instructional content is safe. The classics that defined the 1914 will be restocked and made available once again. And with our industry-leading infrastructure and customer service behind the scenes, the future is stronger than ever. But this isn't just about preservation. Work has already begun on a series of new 1914 releases. Projects that have been quietly evolving for years and are finally ready to see the light of day. This is the next chapter. Built on respect for the past, driven by belief in the future. Thank you for your continued support. Thank you for coming along with us on this journey. We are the new 1914.

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